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Atheist / Secularist Conflation

I would say that many atheist are secularist also. Unfortunately these terms are seen as one but definitely represent fundamentally different viewpoints.

Atheist: Simply means; a person who does not believe in a god/gods.  The reasons are varied and cannot be nailed down to one point. (By the way, it is not a religion either. * insert blank stare here*

Secularist: A person who support the principals in secularism, the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries. (Yes, I copied from Wikipedia)

Using these definitions, it seems obvious that they need not be applied together to an individual or group. The propensity for people to assume others beliefs based on one aspect of their personality seems to be a common trait in the human condition. (I know that I a guilty of this but I will admit this could be confirmation bias.) It suggests an oversimplification is made when assesing others when part of a group and leading to generalizations that fit the narritive already established by the one piece of information. This can be a useful shortcut in reasoning when the assumptions need to be grouped together to be true. Yet, without skeptical assesment, this shortcut becomes fallacious thinking.


Noah Movie (NOT Review) Christians/Atheists Dichotomy

The new Noah movie debuted to a mix of reviews and diverse opinions within christian/atheist circles . I expected my fellow atheists to have a problem with the making of  the homicidal bible story into a movie. I found that a great deal of them (myself included) had no issue with, what we would consider a myth anyway.  One could argue that these religion based movies promote that worldview but that argument holds up as well as a correlation between committing violence and playing violent video games as an adult. Furthermore people who gather their deeply held beliefs from movies probably will be not be the audience to accept the scientific explanations of why a wooden boat made of gopher wood (whatever that is) could not possibly be built that large, on where all the water went after the flood, animal math problems or how quickly the world was repopulated by inbreeding.

The reaction of many fundamental christians (I would say that a vast majority of christians are sophisticated enough to take the movie as pure entertainment) was to accuse the movie of being inaccurate(even known books 0f fiction change when made into movies) ,to being blasphemous and the  National Religious Broadcasters campaign to have a disclaimer put up on its authenticity. While artistic licence has been taken with the numerous translations of the bible and the historicity of the Old Testament only has one source and that is itself (circular logic). If the movie “JFK” includes a unproven conspiracy theory, I think Noah would be presentable without a disclaimer.

I grew up watching the Ten Commandments on TV, every year of my childhood and youth. My family were not church goers but held some unspecific christian beliefs, and we never discussed the realism of the movie.  I just thought it was an awesome movie, with an interesting story line. I have not seen Noah but I seriously doubt that one movie will destroy or install a belief system. Religious indoctrination or loss of faith is usually a long term process, with many factor that combine into a conclusion. So enjoy the movie, at least it will be good for a laugh.


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